> > On Wed, 28 May 2003, Rob van Nieuwkerk wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I wrote:
> > > > It turns out that Linux is updating inode timestamps of fifos (named
> > > > pipes) that are written to while residing on a read-only filesystem.
> > > > It is not only updating in-ram info, but it will issue *physical*
> > > > writes to the read-only fs on the disk !
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > > Sysinfo:
> > > > --------
> > > > - various 2.4 kernels including RH-2.4.20-13.9,
> > > > but also straight 2.4(ac) ones.
> > > > - CompactFlash (= IDE disk)
> > > > - Geode GX1 CPU (i586 compatible)
> > >
> > > Forgot to mention: I use an ext2 fs, but maybe it's a generic,
> > > fs-independant problem.
> > >
> > > greetings,
> > > Rob van Nieuwkerk
> >
> > How does it 'know' it's a R/O file-system? Have you mounted it
> > R/O, mounted it noatime, or just taken whatever you get when
> > you boot from a ramdisk?
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> The kernel has the "ro" commandline-parameter.
> There is no remount after the system boots.
> "touch /bla" gives a read-only fs error.
>
> > FYI, I created a FIFO with mkfifo, remounted the file-system
> > R/O, executed `cat` with it's input coming from the FIFO, and
> > then waited for a few minutes. I then wrote to the FIFO.
> > The atime did not change with 2.4.20.
>
> Just did the same here (on my workstation). And the times *did* change ..
> More precisely: the "modification" & "change" were updated, the "access"
> time remained unchanged.
>
Okay. I can now verify the problem. There are two problems as this
script will show:
Script started on Wed May 28 16:10:13 2003
# cat xxx.c
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <signal.h>
#include <sys/fcntl.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <sys/wait.h>
int main(void);
static const char fifo[]="/alt/FIFO";
void reaper(int unused)
{
while(wait3(&unused, WNOHANG, NULL) > 0)
;
}
int main()
{
int fd;
int i;
char buf[0x1000];
struct stat sb;
(void)mkfifo(fifo, 0644);
(void)signal(SIGCHLD, reaper);
if((fd = open(fifo, O_RDWR)) < 0)
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
switch(fork())
{
case 0:
for(;;)
{
if(read(fd, buf, sizeof(buf)) < 0)
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
if(*buf == (char) 0xa5) exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
}
break; /* Not reached */
case -1:
fprintf(stderr, "Can't fork()\n");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
break; /* Not reached */
default:
break; /* Now required */
}
memset(buf, 0x00, sizeof(buf));
for(i=0; i< 0x10; i++)
{
(void)write(fd, buf, sizeof(buf));
(void)fstat(fd, &sb);
printf("atime = %08lx\n", sb.st_atime);
printf("mtime = %08lx\n", sb.st_mtime);
printf("ctime = %08lx\n", sb.st_ctime);
sleep(1);
}
*buf = (char)0xa5;
(void)write(fd, buf, 0x01);
(void)close(fd);
// (void)unlink(fifo);
return 0;
}
# gcc -O2 -o xxx -Wall xxx.c
# ./xxx
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517c5
ctime = 3ed517c5
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517c6
ctime = 3ed517c6
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517c7
ctime = 3ed517c7
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517c8
ctime = 3ed517c8
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517c9
ctime = 3ed517c9
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517ca
ctime = 3ed517ca
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517cb
ctime = 3ed517cb
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517cc
ctime = 3ed517cc
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517cd
ctime = 3ed517cd
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517ce
ctime = 3ed517ce
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517cf
ctime = 3ed517cf
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517d0
ctime = 3ed517d0
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517d1
ctime = 3ed517d1
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517d2
ctime = 3ed517d2
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517d3
ctime = 3ed517d3
atime = 3ed51750
mtime = 3ed517d4
ctime = 3ed517d4
# >/alt/foo
bash: /alt/foo: Read-only file system
# exit
exit
Script done on Wed May 28 16:11:12 2003
As you can clearly see, access time (atime) is not changed.
However, both ctime and mtime are both changed with every
FIFO access. Since this FIFO is provably on a R/O file system,
nothing should change.
Now, somebody will probably claim that this is the correct
POSIX defined behavior <sigh> so you might have to make some
work-around like use a pipe or socket instead of the FIFO??
Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it.
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