Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc3 - ipmi unresolved

Keith Owens (kaos@ocs.com.au)
Tue, 27 May 2003 13:09:09 +1000


On Mon, 26 May 2003 19:30:04 -0500,
Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org> wrote:
>Keith Owens wrote:
>>I considered making notifier_chain_register() a macro which called
>>notifier_chain_register_module() with __THIS_MODULE, but that assumes
>>that all calls to notifier_chain_register() are local, i.e. from the
>>top level functions. Alas there are any service routines that call
>>notifier_chain_register() on behalf of their caller, so the macro
>>approach will result in the wrong value for __THIS_MODULE.
>>
>Why can't you have a module id in the notifier chain, and use a boolean
>to tell if it is set, or something similar to that? That way you could
>mix them, if the bool is set then do the try_in_module_count thing, if
>not then just call the function. It does add some components to the
>register structure, but that shouldn't hurt anything besides taking a
>little more memory.

It is a change of API in a 2.4 kernel. Not a good idea.

>>notifier_chain_unregister() is not a problem, that is a downcall from
>>the module into the kernel when the module is going away, downcalls are
>>"always" safe. The race is a module that has started to unload, and
>>another cpu (or even the same cpu under some circumstances) runs the
>>notifier chain, doing an upcall from the kernel into a module without
>>locking or refcounts. Given the right timing, the notifier code could
>>even branch to a module that has been completely removed. Note that
>>notifier_call_chain() has no locking, so it is also racy against
>>notifier_chain_unregister().
>>
>>
>You don't understand how the RCU code works.

(a) I understand how RCU works, I was working on lock free code for
years before RCU appeared in the kernel.

(b) This is 2.4, not 2.5, there is no RCU.

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