Re: AARGH! Please help. IDE controller fsckup

[Andre Hedrick]

One of the observed issues under raid-tools is not looking at all the
devices' superblocks.  This would allow for out of order initialization.
Treating the devices as domino chips and stuffing them back in random
order and it working.

If I am wrong here, great.  Somebody please make the correction.

Cheers,

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Jakob Oestergaard wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:13:28PM +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> > > > I have used presistent superblocks, but md0,1,2,3 will be differently
> > > > ordered if I change the disk order... At least I think so. It surely
> > > > didn't work.
> > >
> > > No. md0 would stay md0.  This is another effect of using superblocks,
> > > and in fact this is also (ironically) more or less the only argument
> > > *against* using them   :)
> > >
> > > (Imagine inserting a disk which knows that it is disk 0 of md0 into some
> > > machine that already has a perfectly fine md0 running)
> > 
> > ok. so. theoretically - as long as the system finds all 16 drives, I should be 
> > able to shuffle them around and attach them to whichever controller there is? 
> > right?
> 
> It will not reattach your disks (you need to move cables to do that),
> but it will know "First disk of md0" from "Second disk of md0"
> regardless of whether those disks are /dev/hda or /dev/sdg.
> 
> You can shuffle your disks around as much as you please.  When the RAID
> code looks at your disks, it will read their superblocks and correctly
> make the first disk of md0 the first disk of md0, and so forth,
> regardless of the actual device name of the disk.
> 
> > 
> > ok.
> > 
> > now, I've replaced the faulty controller, and booting up. the new controller 
> > is also (like the old one) a CMD649...
> > 
> 
> RAID doesn't care about controllers.
> 
> RAID without persistent superblocks cares about disk device names.
> 
> RAID with persistent superblocks don't care about disk device names.
> 
> > hæ?
> 
> Øh?
> 
> > 
> > it works. but it surely didn't work last time...
> > 
> 
> Good for you  :)
> 
> > thanks
> > 
> > > > But ... with persistent superblock - is it possible to fsckup the raid?
> > >
> > > You're root, it is indeed possible  :)
> > 
> > er - yes. I more meant like 'automagically'
> 
> It will only automagically screw up your arrays if you shuffle disks
> between machines (mix several RAID arrays from other systems in one
> system)  (you can of course move all your disks to one new machine, if
> it has none of it's original RAIDed disks left).
> 
> Just don't mix disks with persistent superblocks from multiple machines
> into one single machine.  Unless you know exactly what you're doing.
> 
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Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group