Re: Coding style - a non-issue

[Larry McVoy]

Henning, perhaps you can explain to me how the following isn't a 

	"I don't do XYZ"

	"XYZ"

statement?

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 06:53:05PM +0100, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> You may want to know that I work in this
> industry for about 15 years and write commercial code (that is "code
> that ships") since about that time (and I don't run around telling
> everybody each and every time about it and what I've already done). 

That would be the "I don't do XYZ..."

> I've
> written code in a good two dozen languages (including things that really
> deserve to die like Comal) and I've worked in projects from "one man
> show" to "lots of people in Elbonia also work on this".

And this would be the "XYZ".

If you are going to yell at people for a particular behaviour, it's really
more effective if you don't show that behaviour in the midst of your yelling,
wouldn't you agree?  Just a friendly thought.

> So, please, please, Larry, _STOP THE FUCK PATRONIZING OTHERS_.

It would appear that you find everything I say patronizing, regardless of
what it is or how it is said.  I'm sorry about that, but I'm not going
to change how I speak to suit you.  Yell all you want.  I'd suggest
that if you find my emails offensive, you add me to your kill file.

> The question now is, what is "amateur behaviour": Forcing this driver
> writer to change or to tolerate his style in his driver? We're still
> talking about a driver, not about the VM subsystem or the networking
> core.

Your approach to this whole topic is a good example of why I run my own
company and I have absolute authority to fire people at will.  If you 
worked here and you persisted with this approach, you would be fired,
without question.  I don't know how to say it more clearly, I don't
say it lightly, hiring someone, training them, all of that is a huge
investment.  One which I would discard if you couldn't fit in.  Coding
style is part of fitting in, it isn't optional in any code I pay for.

You may have a different view, that's cool, you're entitled.  But realize
that any professional software organization is unlikely to agree with you.
For whatever that is worth.