Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9

[Linus Torvalds]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Tonu Samuel  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Problem still exists and persists. Not long time ago man from Yahoo
>described well case when change from 2.2.19 to 2.4.x caused performance
>problems. On 2.2.19 everything ran fine. They have MySQL running+did
>backups from disk. After upgrade to 2.4.x MySQL performance felt down on
>backup time. They investigated stuff and found that MySQL daemon gets
>swapped out in the middle of usage to make room for buffers.

Note that if you're using a raw device backup strategy (ie "e2dump" or
similar), that is expected: 2.4.x up until about 2.4.7 gave _much_ too
much preference to the buffer cache. 

That should actually have been fixed in 2.4.8. We used to mark buffer
pages much too active.

> In summary:
>this made both sql and backup double slow. Even increasing memory from
>1G->2G didn't helped. Finally they disabled swap at all and problem
>lost.

You just hid the problem - by disabling swap the buffer cache couldn't
grow without bounds any more, and the proper buffer cache shrinking
couldn't happen.

Try 2.4.8 or later.

>If you do not want to change it back as it was in 2.2.x then would be
>good if this is tunable somehow. 

Tuning for bugs?

What do you want to happen? You want to have an interface like

	echo 0 > /proc/bugs/mm

that makes mm bugs go away?

		Linus