> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Guest section DW wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:52:09PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> > > You can do overcommit avoidance in Linux if you are bored enough to try it.
> >
> > Would you accept it as the default? Would Linus?
>
> It wouldn't help. Suppose you run without overcommit and you
> fill up RAM and swap to the last page.
>
> Then you change the size of one of the windows on your desktop
> and a program gets sent -SIGWINCH.
Ignoring the fact that most people don't use a tty based desktop, and
that I'm pretty happy having my desktop die in flames when OOM (my DNS
or smtp server on the other hand...).
> In order to process this
> signal, the program needs to allocate some variables on its
> stack, possibly needing a new page to be allocated for its
> stack ...
man sigaltstack
> ... and since this is something which could happen to any program
> on the system, the result of non-overcommit would be getting a
> random process killed (though not completely random, syslogd and
> klogd would get killed more often than the others).
I fail to see why, stack usage can be limited (and possibly cleanly
handled by having a prctl() to say make sure X pages are available on
the stack).
If you want overcommit great, and I think it's a valid default
... but it'd be nice if I could say I don't want it for apps that
aren't written using glib etc.
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