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If you can=E2=80=99=EF=BD=94 read the following, your mailer (MUA) is =
broken. End of story.=20
=E3=83=AF=E3=82=BF=E3=82=B7=E3=83=AFAndrew=E3=83=87=E3=82=B9=E3=80=82
With the original poster effectively saying that Linux (and I mean the =
kernel, not just a distro) will not be internationalized due to one or =
two spammers is wrong. International helpers (and generally they are =
volunteers) have posted here before, and we should never cut ourselves =
off from 70% of the world who do not speak English.
ASCII's time is coming to a close, and confusing two issues (spam vs =
ignoring all .jp/double byte mails) is simply wrong (and skirting damn =
close to racism). I'm not going into which MUA is best as I've decided =
what works for me and you'll be a partisan of another choice, and there =
should always be that choice. The real issue is that many MUA's are =
simply and unspeakably difficult wrt HTML (which is how double byte =
people must communicate with any chance of it being read somewhere else) =
and how they handle languages in general. Spam is a different issue, and =
one that must be addressed but separately to languages. This is an =
English language forum, and substationally that should not change, but =
cutting off particular language speakers just to avoid spam or faulty or =
substandard mailers smacks of avoiding the real issue.
What happens if a Hebrew, Hindi or Russian language spammer (or more =
likely, the English-language spammers that I've nearly universally had =
in the 11 years I've had e-mail) mails here on a regular basis? The =
problem of spam is separate to I18N, and should always be considered so. =
Otherwise, lkml will alienate international developers. As Linus speaks =
Finnish as his first language (which requires different characters than =
ASCII* supports in any case) I shouldn't think this being controversial. =
Hopefully, the mono-linguists amongst us will pipe down and let Linux be =
truly universal.
Hyv=C3=A4=C3=A4 p=C3=A4iv=C3=A4=C3=A4,
Andrew van der Stock, ajv@greebo.net http://www.greebo.net
SAGE-AU President http://www.sage-au.org.au=20
* ps remember that ASCII is 7 bits (remember VMS?). Characters above 129 =
are defined by whoever defines the platform. Try getting a Mac and a PC =
to agree where =C3=AB or =C3=B6 appear in this space without specifying =
a particular NLS or using Unicode.
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ASCII's time is coming to a close, and confusing two = issues=20 (spam vs ignoring all .jp/double byte mails) is simply wrong (and = skirting=20 damn close to racism). I'm not going into which MUA is best as I've = decided what=20 works for me and you'll be a partisan of another choice, and there = should always=20 be that choice. The real issue is that many MUA's are simply and = unspeakably=20 difficult wrt HTML (which is how double byte people must communicate = with any=20 chance of it being read somewhere else) and how they handle languages in = general. Spam is a different issue, and one that must be addressed but=20 separately to languages. This is an English language forum, and = substationally=20 that should not change, but cutting off particular language speakers = just to=20 avoid spam or faulty or substandard mailers smacks of avoiding the real=20 issue.
Hyv=C3=A4=C3=A4 p=C3=A4iv=C3=A4=C3=A4,
Andrew van der Stock, ajv@greebo.net http://www.greebo.net
SAGE-AU=20
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http://www.sage-au.org.au
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